Saturday, April 07, 2007

Mr Lo-man-tik, Simply Fan-tas-tik

Why is it that some men are more romantic than others?


I think the line separating the romantic from the less romantic is pretty clear these days. Girls tend to suss out the two pretty quickly. Maybe we've watched enough romance flicks to know (before it's too late). Or maybe men are just more direct these days. The whole time-is-money deal even translates into speedier dating styles. No more beating around the bush. No more year-long courting rituals. If it's takes too long, it's not worth the investment. Heh.


But that's besides the point.


I'm focusing on the men women want to date. No, wait. I can't say that. All women want to date romantic men. (Don't lie to me or kid yourself, gurl, you know you want a Mr Romantic. If you say you don't, it's cos you don't have a Mr Romantic by your side.) No, no. I'm focusing on the men women want to date.


I believe that those who need (the I-would-die-without kind) a romantic partner would hardly waste their time of day dating one who isn't up to their standards when it comes to the Romance Scale. And, well, girls who place more importance on the other aspects of their men (e.g. wealth, looks, true love etc.) would date the less romantic with the other "bonuses" in mind at all times.


But what is it that brings out the romantic spark in men?


Is it attributed to the mouldings of the society they grew up in? Or is it thanks to movies they grew up watching? Or could it be that they were raised by mothers who enjoyed being romanced, who told them that other women would equally be as delirious at the prospect of being romanced by a man? Or can it be that it's as simple as biology, because they are the produce of romantic (or less romantic) men's best swimmers?


I'm not getting anywhere with this.


Solo thinking on my part doesn't exactly help when what I really need is male insight to the matter. I need me one of those men friends who are very much in tune with their feminine side. You know? Those who are still real men, but are acutely aware of the needs and wants of a woman and, of course, the needs and wants of their own.


Some say that romance dies after a period of dating. Some say it shouldn't. I heartily agree with the latter. Why should it? Don't people fall more and more in love with each other, with every day that they share together? Doesn't that translate into more romance in the end? I feel sorry for those who believe in the death of romance in longterm relationships. They either don't receive the outflow of love that their partners direct to them, or their partners don't love them as much as they think their partners do.


Okay, sure. Perhaps the means of showing love changes over time. Perhaps time is now a factor with work, babies, other responsibilities, and keeping house. With such a change in the couple's environment, I can understand that being romantic on a daily basis becomes a little more demanding and perhaps a little more tiring. I'll give you that. And only that.


Is leaving a sweet note, a peck on the cheek or saying "I love you" every once in awhile really that difficult? I doubt that we, women, expect much more than that on a daily basis after awhile anyways. Yeah, we may expect a little more on certain days but on a whole, it's the little every day things that count the most when you're in a committed relationship, right?


It's not like we're asking to ride along the Grand Canal of Venice or stand atop the Eiffel Tower in Paris. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it wouldn't be nice to be there and see it for myself. Pictures tell me that the Eiffel Tower does look exceptionally pretty at night. It's said to be breathtaking. But what if what I want is more than an old structure to take my breath away? What if what I want is a man who'd be willing to work at taking my breath away every single day of his life? Heck, I wouldn't even need that Eiffel Tower, for crying out loud!




Really though. Realistically speaking, if I were to have to choose between flying there with a partner and not hold hands or say "I love you", I'd rather not be there at all. Take comfort in old architecture and not feel deeply loved in the romance capital of the world – the City of Light? No, thank you.


I am one who would very much rather be in the company of a partner who'd sit by my side right in my very own living room. A partner who'd have a blast carving a miniature Eiffel Tower together with me and enjoy every second of it.




Who says pumpkin art cannot be a romantic activity?

Sigh. I don't know.

Maybe some men just aren't cut out for this romantic thingamajig.

20 comments :

Kirsten said...

Quote, "Some say that romance dies after a period of dating. Some say it shouldn't. I heartily agree with the latter. Why should it? Don't people fall more and more in love with each other, with every day that they share together? Doesn't that translate into more romance in the end?" Unquote

You feel sorry for them while they think we ar living in denial..

anyway, i'd still pweety much like to hold on to faith that love can still flying between me and my lover when i reach those ripening age of 60s where we need to help locate each other's denture and still get a kick out of the process.

Leon said...

When you truly love each other, the romance never dies.

How can it? What ever you two do together, it would seem like it's the best thing ever.

What kills a relationship? Is it the lack of romance? I doubt it.

I think usually a relationship ends because it was rushed into in the first place, way before both people actually considered if they are truly meant for each other.

Most other times, a relationship ends because of lack of security. Either one of the couple decides to become possessive, clingy and depressed, while the other just wants to break free. This is the perfect receipe for disaster.

Any relationship can be compared to building a beautiful, majestic ship. You need a strong foundation to start with, and i think that means the attraction. Next, it needs commitments. You find common goals and interests, and do things together. Of course, it needs bonds. A marriage, getting that house together, (hopefully) great in-laws, kids, or even going through a tough crisis together.

And lastly, what does a relationship need? Laughter. Plenty of it.

So you ask me if lack of romance is the cause of a problematic relationship, I would say no. It's the lack of the rest that's the real killer.

Pam Song said...

ATTN: Kirsten
- I hope I never have to wear dentures. But then again, sure it'd be a whole lot of fun looking for them together. Heh.

Well, yeah. I agree. Many think that it is we who are in denial. We're living in La La Land with no real idea of what love should be like. We take the fairytale version and hope it translates into reality. But does it ever? Well, sometimes, I guess. But more often than not, it doesn't. =(

Yes, I have faith that love can be beautiful. I have faith to believe that it IS beautiful, despite what others may think, do or say. After all, it is we who decide how OUR love lives should be like, isn't it? So why can't we make it as beautiful as we want it to be?

Sigh.

I want to find dentures, too. =(


ATTN: Leon
– Wow. Words of wisdom from the man who's always putting on a jerk-ish front. Bravo, bravo.

Yes, and once again, we agree. Romance should never die when two people are truly in love with each other.

Hmmm. That was interesting insight. Now that you say it, perhaps it IS so that people kill whatever romance they have or have yet to experience when they get bogged down with everything else – insecurity, possessiveness, drama and all that.

But do realise that it's not relationship killers I'm talking about here. It's ROMANCE killers. You've lost what I meant to say. Of course relationships thrive on a combination of factors. But what I'm referring to is the romance in a relationship. Not the relationship itself. All I'm saying is that it doesn't take a lot to keep the passion and romance going in a relationship. All it takes is a little bit of attention to detail and effort. But that's more often than not, easier said than done. =(

Jono said...

There you go again.

Pam Song said...

Who go where where again?

Jono said...

Riiigghtt

Pam Song said...

Haha. Ain't I smooooth?

Anonymous said...

Leon: Great insights! Yup! Romance never dies when Love is in the air.

Anonymous said...

Truly! Some men are much more romantic compared to others... Why? Really dunno...=P But if your man doesnt and you need it badly, tell him your desire. I am sure he will do all he can to make you happy...if he loves you.
Cheers... =)

Leon said...

adhojlim, Pam,

What constitutes to romance? Issit those jammed packed candlelight dinners during Valentines?

Issit the showering of expensive gifts?

How about calling every other hour to the other half?

Having no other social life at all other than spending each and every minute with each other?

Lots of flowers, perhaps?


Personally (and I mean it - the following views are mine, and mine alone, I do not speak on behalf of any other guys or gals), those are superficial crap. Temporary reprive to a crappy relationship.

Romance. Think about just suddenly, without any prior plans, taking the afternoon off, both of you, and go hang out at the beach, the shopping mall, or anyplace you like.

Think about picking up a sick puppy together and nursing it back to health, and bringing it up.

Think about showing up at her office one afternoon with a nice chocolate cheese cake and a HUGE grin.

Think about the shitty dinner your other half decide to surprise you with, but it still taste a hundred times better than the food at any 5-star restaurant, because you know she spent an entire afternoon preparing it.

Think about coffee and choco at Gloria Jeans, KLCC at 1AM, talking and laughing about everything under the sun.

Think about the kitchen set you guys are choosing for the new home, or the type of sofa, and the countless hours you spent argue why blue is better than 'fuchsia'.

Think about missing her like mad when she's not around, but too proud to admit it when she asked "Did you missed me today?"


Now, what I'm trying to say (before I bore you to death) is that romance is just everywhere. Just learn to see the finer, simple things in life, cherish them and believe me, every single day is Valentines Day.

So how can romance die? Romance don't die. Never. It's immortal. Some of us just fail to see it, that's all.

*sigh*

Pam Song said...

ATTN: adhojlim
– So you're saying that the some-men-aren't-cut-out-to-be-romantic thing is actually a sham? That all men are actually capable of being romantic? That we, the girls, have been deceived into thinking that!? Alamak!

Heh. I don't know but I think that conversations of such are very sensitive issues. You never know what bringing them up may cause. Treading on dangerous ground.


ATTN: Leon
– You should really have read my Valentine posts. Read this one.

I'm not as obsessed as you may think I am when it comes to the superficial (and commercialized) stuff. All I'm saying is that it befits the celebration. To be fair, it'd be like Chinese New Year without red packets, birthdays without cakes and candles or funerals without flowers. You know what I mean? It just makes the season a tad merrier. Somewhat like dressing up on Halloween. Just for the fun of it. What's that harm in that?

Okay, and to be fair, all this costs money, right? That could be a problem for some. So, why not DO something. It's the thought that counts anyways, right? We don't need our men to splurge on expensive candlelight dinners at 100-star restaurants. We'd be happy with much less. As long as we see that there's effort to whatever it is that they do.

Hmmm. I wouldn't call romantic gestures "temporary reprieves to a crappy relationship". I call them the icing on top of the cake. It's a bonus when a girl finds herself a romantic guy. That's all.

And Leon, I'm all for spontaneity. That's what rocks in a relationship between two people. Expect the unexpected. That's where all the fun is. I agree. BUT to be realistic, with work and life, we can't be spontaneous all the time, can we? Not all of us have that liberty.

And if only all men were for showing up to surprise their women at the office. Heck, they wouldn't even need to bring a cake. Pfft. Just them and their lips will do. Sigh.

You know what, I'm all for the simple things in life. It's just that not all men get the Simple Thing Theory. Not enough of them understand that even the littlest of gestures make our female hearts flutter madly and make us go weak in the knees.

I believe in seeing romance everywhere in everything. But what if because we let it lie, one day it becomes nothing and nowhere? =(

Leon said...

Pam,

*sigh* Ur missing my points again, i suppose.

I've never had much concerns about money. I lead a simple life, I don't have expensive hobbies, and earn a grosteque income which you wouldn't believe.

Whatever I have I put some into my insurance, investment and saving portfolios, and the rest I splash on my partner, may it be dinners, gifts or vacations or whatever.

The reason I'm telling you this is not to brag, but to tell you that though I shower her with the best restaurants and the biggest of bouquets on Valentines, each and every, me and my partner both agree that those are crappy and unecessary ways to celebrate the occassion.

So for the next one, we're gonna do something different. Maybe I'll con her into cooking asam curry fish head for our home dinner or something. (IMHO, it's one of the toughtest chinese dish to prepare).

*grins*

And she had warned me after that last Valentine that if I send her another bouquet of dead plant of any sort, she won't speak to me for a week. Just send the cash, she said.

*grins*

Maybe I'll send a dead, rotten kitten instead. That'll teach her not to be choosy. *grins*.

Oops, this isn't onlineblasphemy. Darn.

Anyway, I digress to the dark side again.

I'm sure I am not going to be able to convince you of the shitty side to Valentines celebration, but for the next one, you and your partner are cordially invited to some asam curry fish head at my place.

We'll see if that might just change your mind, even if its just a little.

Cheers.

*grins*

Anonymous said...

Hmm...Great and tough questions. That is interesting...Sham is not the word I use to describe the lack of romance in a man that is seen in the eyes of the spouse. But I believe most of us (men) are teachable and we will make it the best of our might to make our spouse happier. But if we are not there (up to the expectation of our spouse)...at least we did try right? =))

Of course telling your spouse directly and with your eyeballs poping out might put you on dangerous ground but there will always be a better approach to communicate that message....u can still hint him right? Or even suggest to do something together that could even unveil his sense of romance.... For me, hehe.. I will prefer my spouse tell me straight in the eyes so that I know exactly what she wants!

Did u know that sometimes we men are also as depressed as our spouse? We dont even know what is actually lingering in the mind of our spouse and yet we did many things just to make things right...But haha.. we are still crucified! Kiri-Kanan-Depan- Belakang.. all kena tembak... Poor we guys =P...darn.. but still we love our repective spouses! =))

Pam Song said...

ATTN: Leon
– Ahh. See, you're Mr Big Bucks so it's different with you when it comes to $$$. Unfortunately for a great number of men out there, $$$ does play a part in deciding what to do or give, no matter how noble their intentions may be.

Well, from the sound of it, your woman is a very fortunate one. Perhaps it's when you have something (a bf who offers you all that and more) then you don't feel the need for it. Grass being greener on the other side and all that. Say the same – crappy and unnecessary ways to celebrate the occasion" to someone who hasn't had the chance to experience all that. See what they say.

I'm all for free food. Sounds good. Plus, your gf sounds like a real interesting character. Heh. Ons.

p/s: This is Tinki Talks. Please leave onlineblasphemy at the door before you enter.


ATTN: adhojlim
– Well, technically speaking, I guess you're right. It's almost like saying, "All girls want to make their partners happy by cooking dinner everyday and washing their clothes as soon as any hit the floor." But we don't, do we? Despite our best intentions. Not all of us do it. Even if it may make our partners happier men.

I thought hinting doesn't work on men. Haha. Anyway, I guess we can both agree that communication is so important. But good communication is so difficult with the advent of modern technology. Communication devices have sent communication downhill.

Anonymous said...

Haha...cooking for your husband? Good idea.. that will lure him to go home earlier and spend time with u... u can use that to keep the momentum going on and open up the channel for communication.. and men...hehe.. please say 'Ho Chiak' *grins* even when the food is a bit salty.. U cant always find salty food out there......hahaha =)just joking! cheers to all!

Pam Song said...

HAHA. Isn't that super sad!? I need to resort to food to get my husband home!? Oh no! Die die die. Si liao la. How now? Aih.

Leon said...

Pam,

I seriously think I'm the lucky one, for I doubt a jerk like me deserve a girl such as her.

Anyway, my partner comes from a much much more loaded background than me (and I mean way serious cold hard cash those type), so I guess in some ways, you are right.

And that I have never seen it that way until you pointed out to me, so I extend my apologies to all your readers. I didn't mean it that way, but what I was sincerely trying to say is that sometimes the finer things in life are actually free.

And yes, Pam, you will like her lots. She's sweet, soft spoken and totally cool. Just a tad quiet and shy, though, esp around strangers.

Anyway, basically, she's all the things that I'm not. And that's a good thing indeed.

Cheers, and sorry again, readers.

Pam Song said...

Whoa. She's had the good life, huh? Well, good to know you're keeping up with it. Always give her better than she's had, eh? Bravo. If a man's to take her away from daddy, he'd better be able to take care of her as well as, or better, than her daddy has. =)

How old is she, if you don't mind me asking. She looks pretty young.

Leon said...

She does look young... she's only 15. We started dating when she was 10. Oh you know all about me and my padoephilic tendencies

*grins*

Oh .. not onlineblasphemy again. Darn.

*sigh*

She's 26. A year younger than me. Real life, she looks like 22 or something. Which is why people usually give me that 'dirty old man' stare.

Pam Song said...

HAHA. Right. I almost reported you to the authorities there. Until I read your second paragraph. Haha.

It's good having a girl who looks younger than her age. Sure when you guys are young, you'll get hit by the nasty stares. But think about when you guys are 45. Waaa. She'll still be hot, hot, hot and you'll be in for the jealous stares then. Haha.

You guys have been dating for 5 years? Eh, get married di la. You're 27, she's 26, what's the problem!? You've got to MOVE IT, MOVE IT!

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